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From: pv AT cs DOT montana DOT edu (Paul Peavyhouse)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp
Subject: Re: Req: DOS/DJGPP Quake Makefile
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 03:28:04 GMT
Organization: Montana State University
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In article <332e2ca5 DOT 271959937 AT news DOT wwa DOT com>, sam AT devin DOT org (Sam Speel) wrote:
>On Sun, 09 Mar 97 03:44:40 GMT, pv AT cs DOT montana DOT edu (Paul Peavyhouse)
>wrote:
>
>>        Someone once posted a copy of their makefile they they used to 
>>successfully compile the Quake source codes under DOS/DJGPP.  Could someone 
>>please repost that file?
>>        Also, I have been trying to figure out this one all day.  The DJGPP 
>>library is what is used to compile Quake.  The problem is that DJGPP does not 
>>come with <sys/socket.h> nor <netdb.h>.  I have found the IBM-PC version of 
>>the files in the Cygnus Win-32 port of the gcc compiler and now have both the 
>>DJGPP and the Cygnus compilers on my computer.  My question now is, how can 
>>both DJGPP and Cygnus peacefully coexist as my GCC compilers?  Or do they even
> 
>>need to?  Can I combine them both into ONE include directory?  The DJGPP 
>>"make" doesn't like the Cygnus source code, but the Cygnus "make" doesn't seem
> 
>>to mind the DJGPP source code.  Any suggestions here?  Thanks!
>>
>>                                                              PV
>>______________________________________________________________________________
>>
>> Paul Peavyhouse                          
>> http://www.cs.montana.edu/~pv           
>> email: pv AT cs DOT montana DOT edu                
>>______________________________________________________________________________
>
>Paul (or anyone else who reads this thread),
>Would you be so kind as to post the source to this group?  We
>unfortunates who weren't able to track down the source would still
>like to get to look at.  I don't even need to build the thing... just
>purely curiosity.
>
>Anyone feeling uncomfortable about posting the source could always do
>so anonymously...

        Sorry, but I do not feel comfortable doing that either way.  
It is not my position to either condone nor comdemn sharing this code 
(globally, I think it would do us all good to look at, but that is not fair to 
ID, and I respect ID Software too much to hurt them like that).  Besides, I 
may not even have MY copy anymore.
        Since I cannot stop that which has already been done (BTW: go to 
http://www.medcom.se/news/970227.html to get info on the theft of the 
Quake source code...I'm sure that's not the last we will hear of it), I will 
tell you that doing global Archie searches on a regular basis will turn up 
something every now and then.  The file is out there, and all you have to do 
is find it before the admins do.  http://ftpsearch.ntnu.no/ftpsearch is also 
another good reference, although their links tend to be older than the ftp 
server's current status (ie: most files are deleted soon after ftpsearch 
enters them in its database).  Still, you may get lucky.
        Sorry people, but I personally don't think ID Software deserves to 
have their source code pirated around, they are by far too decent a company to 
do that to.  However, I would respect ID Software even more if they would just 
bite the bullet on this and officially release the source code...afterall, 
from what I hear about Quake2, and John Carmack's "not having to support DOS 
anymore", they are still so far ahead of the competition (anyone rememeber 
Into The Shadows?) that it really wouldn't hurt them.  It's inevitable that by 
the end of this year every serious coder is going to have a copy, so why fight 
it?  Just my opinion...

                                                        PV


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 Paul Peavyhouse                          
 http://www.cs.montana.edu/~pv           
 email: pv AT cs DOT montana DOT edu                
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