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From: "John S. Fine" <johnfine AT erols DOT com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp
Subject: Re: Nasm and real-mode ISRs (bimodal)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:21:41 -0400
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Rock wrote:

> vectors.  I'm copyig the code into my DOS mem, for which I have a
> segment and a 0 offset. I'm then using this segment:offset to set the
> real-mode vector via the DPMI. Now since I've told the DPMI that the
> offset is zero, shouldn't I get CS = segment and ip = 0 when my ISR
> gets called?

  Yes.

> If the vector was set the way I told it, then cs SHOULD
> be coming in pointing right to my routine/DOS mem.

  Yes, but that doesn't mean what you think it means.

  On entry to your ISR, IP is zero and CS is the segment to
which you moved your ISR;  However, and use in your asm
code of any of its own labels won't give a value relative
to that segment.  Instead it will give a value relative to
wherever your 16-bit code was originally loaded within the
32-bit program (excepting "relative" jumps and calls which
are "position independent").

> >  One solution I do understand is to assemble your module
> >through NASM twice:
. . .
> Yikes. Kind of lost me here. I'll put this on hold for now.

  Sorry, to hear that, because the double assembly is
probably the easiest solution.

> >  None of the limits are in the tools.  The difficulties are inherent
> >in your decision to load a chunk of 16-bit code as part of a 32-bit
> >program

> My decision? Is there another way to do bi-modal interrupts without
> copying the real-mode isr?

  Not that I know of.  I guess you're right.  Either DJGPP or
its documentation, or my understanding of it, is limited because
it is not obvious how to create a "private" segment.  I was
reacting mainly to your complaints about NASM.  I still don't think
anything in the NASM design is making any aspect of this problem
harder.
 
> I just do that because that's how Watcom does it.

  I don't know how Watcom does it.  I assume they have more
obvious support for private segments, but I can't even guess
how they distinguish between the address of the load copy of
the ISR as viewed from the 32-bit code and the internal
addresses of the relocated isr as viewed by itself.  Even
Intel OMF format has no right way to do that.  (Unless you
mean 16-bit DPMI, in which case there is a clear right
answer).

> only reason I added the real-mode isr was because the program was
> crashing without it from some RMCB. Now it still crashes, but with a
> different problem. I think I know why, but don't how to fix it. Any
> ideas?

  First idea is that you don't need a real-mode isr at all.
You just need to fix that bug in your protected mode isr (which
is probably the register use bug you already identified).

> My protected mode ISR is using data from the standard DS segment, as
> well as data from low memory (i.e. my DOS memory). I'm loading es for
> the DOS selector, and WAS assuming that DS always pointed to the
> program's 'default' data section. But with DJGPP, that isn't true.

  I doubt that it would be true in any DPMI system.

> it gets called. I guess I need to load ds with the default DS
> selector, but how can I do that.

  Re-ask just that question here (or search dejanews).  I don't
remember the answer, but the question has been asked and answered
here before.  (It might even be in the FAQ).

> The nasm docs says that you never have to change selectors, especially
> using DJGPP. Are they on drugs?!??!?!

  If you were totally precise in any piece of documentation (covered
every exception case) your documentation would all be impossible to
understand.  What you read was written to support people writing
subroutines to be called directly from C.  Writing interrupt service
routines is a whole different activity and the normal rules don't
apply.

  However, I think there is something in the FAQ about wrapper
routines in the DJGPP library that handle all that for you.  If
you use those rather than setting up the interrupt directly, you
could even write the interrupt service routine in C.  If you can
write it in C then you can also write it in NASM with all the
register use assumptions in the NASM/DJGPP documentation.
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