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From:	Rugxulo <rugxulo AT gmail DOT com>
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Subject:	Re: GNU Emacs 22.3 and Vista
Date:	Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:41:03 -0700 (PDT)
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Hi,

On Apr 9, 5:12=A0pm, Eli Zaretskii <e DOT  DOT  DOT  AT gnu DOT org> wrote:
> > From: Rugxulo <rugx DOT  DOT  DOT  AT gmail DOT com>
> > Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:43:38 -0700 (PDT)
>
> > And just for the record, if you find it does matter, the latest GZip
> > .ZIPs (bin + src) 1.3.12 for DJGPP total less than 1 MB.
>
> It doesn't matter how small it is. =A0What matters is that it doesn't
> come with the basic DJGPP installation, and it is absent from stock
> DOS/Windows systems.

Even DJGPP is absent from stock DOS/Windows systems!

> Emacs is one of the few GNU packages that are considered ``basic'',
> i.e. ones you could build and install if you were bootstrapping the
> entire DJGPP system. =A0After you have the compiler, Binutils, and
> djdevXXX.zip, you are supposed to build Make first and Emacs next.

Not sure that will work since you still need sed, mv, rm.

> That is why both Make and Emacs do not use configure scripts to
> configure themselves and don't require additional tools to build,
> except what's absolutely necessary. =A0Gzip is out.

Except when necessary, of course.

This was all theoretical anyways. No loss since I didn't get my hopes
up unrealistically. But there are a few options, in theory at least:

1). Fix DJTAR to unpack .gz instead of .tar.gz (already mentioned to
DJ once before, he says it's not that simple a fix).

2). Use another portable tool (Elvis author's p.d. UNTAR or Tillman's
UNTGZ or Ibsen's tinf).

ftp://ftp.cs.pdx.edu/pub/elvis/
http://www.t-st.org/untgz/
http://www.ibsensoftware.com/download.html

EDIT: tinf has a makefile.dj2 file already. Of course, untar is public
domain, only one small .C file (40k unpacked), and pre-built 16-
bit .EXE is only 22k (or 13k UPX'd).

3). Use zlib to make Emacs have built-in Deflate support (oops,
another requirement, probably unlikely, although I swear there was
some other GNU project using zlib, but I forget).

http://www.zlib.net

4). Hack the Allegro Common Lisp version of inflate.cl to use Emacs
Lisp.

http://opensource.franz.com/deflate/index.html

It's not urgent, so don't bother worrying about this. But feel free to
think about it if you like the idea.

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